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The Programmer Salary Taboo

  Derek Thurn      2011-04-18 00:19:03      7,230    1    0

Salary is an interesting topic. It's certainly one everyone has an opinion on. It's also a uniquely taboo subject among members of the working public. Since I'm about a month away from being done with University and entering the programmer workforce, I've taken to asking my classmates what type of starting salaries they're getting at their first jobs. The first thing I discovered is that not everybody is very comfortable with this question, and many companies are even less so. Microsoft requests very firmly that recipients of their offers keep their salary offers confidential, for example.

This reaction is very understandable on the part of a company like Microsoft. They want to keep that information secret if at all possible. If they made you a good offer and you tell your friends, your friends might have unreasonable expectations. If they made you a bad offer and you tell your friends, then you'll find out that it's bad, and you'll be unhappy. So working to keep this taboo in effect is clearly in every company's best interests. That certainly doesn't mean that you need to go along with the taboo, though!

From the perspective of an individual, disclosing your salary is a pretty good idea. Sharing salary information with your peers is a great way to get a sense for how well you're being compensated, which in turn is an invaluable tool in future salary negotiations. Compensation is, of course, very difficult to compare accurately, since different regions have different standards, but it's certainly a start!

To put my money where my mouth is, here's some information on the starting salaries for four big technology companies based on my informal observations. I'd be pretty hypocritical if I advocated disclosure without any sharing information myself! In each of these cases, I've consulted at least three people who received full-time offers from the company in question, so these figures are approximate (and specific to undergrads).

  • Google: The standard for the Mountain View office and a number of other large US offices is about $100,000/year, but they do scale that figure based on where you live by some secret factor. I've heard figures between $45k and $71k (tending towards the higher end) for the value of stock they give you over a four year vesting period, and Google bonuses can count for $45,000 per year or more.
  • Amazon: About $87,000/year, and they're fairly well known for not being too willing to negotiate starting salary. They typically offer between $40,000 and $50,000 worth of stock over four years, with a non-uniform vesting period (you get more the longer you stay).
  • Microsoft: Around $90,000 per year on average, although I've heard as low as $80,000. Typically comes with about $50,000 worth of stock over four years.
  • Facebook: Around $85,000-$90,000 per year. The stock situation is complicated, but I believe between 8,000 and 10,000 restricted stock units over four years is typical, which potentially could be worth more than $200,000 if you believe the secondary market prices, which have been as high as $28/share.



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Guest [Reply]@ 2011-04-18 02:37:43


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